Jul 23, 2020
7:15 Katie Phang @katiephang is a trial lawyer and legal analyst for MSNBC and NBC News. Katie is one of the most brilliant and articulate people I have had the honor to interview and this was a great conversation.
49:31 Dr Richard Haas @RichardHaass is the President of the very prestigious Council on Foreign Relations. He has written several books but his most recent one is titled The World: A Brief Introduction
We had a great talk about a wide range of foreign relations issues and I learned a lot as I always do
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